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Markov Family, Russia, 1905

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Markov Family, Russia, 1905
My great-great grandmother Elisaveta Markova, her children, and her 15 y.o. daughter's guests.
People in photo include: Elisaveta Joannovna Markova
Date & Place: in Саратов, город Саратов County, Саратовская обл. Россия
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Taken in Russia in 1905, the youngest of the Markova family is proudly displaying her doll.
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10/09/2015
Leonnard Huss, olhe, a foto da Russia da epoca ^^
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10/09/2015
wonderful photo!
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10/09/2015
Alicia ?
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10/10/2015
Alicia Markova ballerina ?
Alicia was Marks, as far as I know. "Markova" was a russification of her name by Dyagilev. The girl on photo was Elena-Antonina.
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10/10/2015
Ahh well thank you !
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10/09/2015
Love these photos
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10/09/2015
great pic. but even befoore I could read I knew they were Russian.
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10/10/2015
I've worked with Russina for many years , despite having caucasian roots, most of them have mongolian features.In the Baltics where they are still 20% of local population as far as you know it is easy ro egnonize them among thelocal population, in general taller but their eyes ..you can see...
Just sunny April day! )) Are you sure, Carlos, that my great grandfather's face was of mongolian type? ;) /Photo of 1939./
This is my "mongolian eye", by the way. Markov had the same.
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10/10/2015
you have a beautiful eye .
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10/10/2015
please I didn't want to hurt nobody's feelings .But most Russians do have asian ancestors andI think it is okay but I didn't mean to ofend you, sorry , do not be mad but one you know the country and all theregion you will veirfy it is true.
Carlos (thanks for your compliment!), you mean the German and Baltic nationalist theory of "total genetic influence of Mongolian warriors" during Mongolian occupation of Russia at XIII cent. indeed. Maybe, you don't feel racist basis of the attitude.
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10/10/2015
No , Sveta, I do not see any racist atitude , it is just history, russian are indo european.
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10/10/2015
for me Putin is a typical Russian and I can see those eyes in most of them and I do not see anything wrong about it .
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Those are my daughter's eyes and
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10/10/2015
and those are my son's eyes.As Potuguese we are a real melting pot ; romans, jews, arabic and all the tribes from the Peninsula .In my wife's family the blue eyes are very common but specially because of the French soldiers from Napoleon who invaded the region cerca 1800.We are all mixed up and we should be proud of that.
Unusual photos of your children (too close to camera)! Hm... seeing Mr. Putin in every of Russians is a great your idea, Carlos! )) I'm sure, my grandfather Nick Lyutov is a typical Russian (he was killed at WW2, he was 26 only):
As for nice old woman on your photo, I'd tell, she is a Native Mordva (Finn related people, living at Mordva Pepublic, Russian Federation). There are not only a lot of Russian types, but a lot of peoples at Russia.
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Look at the clothes
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Five years later...Revolution
12 years later really (1905 - 1917). Not hard times yet! ))
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1912 the miners strike in Siberia
Wow! I need Yandex to find out what strike it was! )) Just a sad date of workers movement, not more. And too far from the town of Saratov, where Markovs lived that time in peace.
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10/10/2015
Yandex?.. 1905..Bloody Sunday..
Yandex is a Russian Google.) Laura, I see, you are interested in Russian History! (Do you have some Russian roots?) Russia is/was too large to think about local conflicts like Siberia miners strike or even Bloody Sunday. Really hard times for most of our ancestors were 1917-1920 (October Revolution and Civil War) and WW2 on our territory (1941-1944).
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10/09/2015
Interesting photo as they are not posing in the usual formal manner. I think the girl with the doll is kneeling. The grandmama has her hand in the bosom of her shawl, uninterested. Family members seem to b photo'd by surprise? Interesting!
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10/09/2015
Neat picture.
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10/09/2015
Middle class.- interesting photo.
Yes, the family of a middle postal clerk. The mother of family Elisaveta (on the photo) was a daughter of an orthodox priest.
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I like how the family behind them is posing for the photo.
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Wonder if the woman sitting that appears older is maybe nursing a child??
Wonder what the background on this pic is???
Were they getting ready for a more formal pic and this was shot in preparation??
The family had just moved from Lodz (now Poland) to Saratov. The photo - one of the first ones of my great grandfather (using his new camera).
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10/09/2015
Love this photo!!
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10/09/2015
Great photo!
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10/09/2015
Very nice photo
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10/09/2015
Even in hard times a child needs her dolly*
1905 wasn't so much hard times.
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10/09/2015
I love Looking at Pictures Like this Bring Back memories of All
Wonderful picture
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10/09/2015
How gorgeous this photo is.... lived such simple lives, hard times, but still had lots of love to give., got on with things.... the best way they could. Now everyone complains if they cant have the latest car or device... hmmmmmmmm
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10/09/2015
It would be so nice to not have those complaints!
Yes, Jennifer, simple lives and a lot of love. But not hard times at that year.
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10/09/2015
Wild photo ! Trying to figure out what's on the other end of the rope the woman on the far left is holding. Also I know there is damage from folding down the right side but,could there be another rope, maybe noose type,on that side ? The only person that appears to want to be in the photo ,is waving his hat and smiling. Not sure what's going on...
The young man waving his hat is my great grandfather's brother Vladimir Markov (1883-?). He was a postal clerk like his father Peter Markov before 1910. I'd like to know ever something about Vladimir's life after 1917! Maybe, he stayed at Poland and my family can't correspond with him since Revolution?..
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10/10/2015
Wow! Thanks for sharing your family photos. I hope you can find the story of what happened with Vladimir and your other family members. Are you familiar with, any of the other people in the photo or, there stories ?
No, unfortunately. I know nothing about most of them. Only the life story of my great great grandmother (sitting woman on the photo) and a little bit about "girl with a doll". Her name was Elena-Antonina. She spend all of her life at Saratov, gave birth for two daughters (I met one of them at my childhood) and was a talented extrasence. %)
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10/10/2015
Thank you for sharing sir.
Mam: Sveta (Svetlana) is a women's name.)
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Oh my ! PLEASE excuse my ignorance. I hope I haven't offended you. Only saw sveta not svetlana or I would have known. Thanks for clearing that up. Beautiful name...
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10/09/2015
Beautiful picture
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10/09/2015
Is the second one in from the right a boy? Looks like he/she is wearing a dress.
Great picture.
Just poor teenager, Monica!)) I don't know standing girls' names, they aren't members of family.
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10/09/2015
The girl with the doll looks to me like she is on her knees , and may be older I thought her arm was to long for a young one.
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10/09/2015
Yes, she looks much older
Yes, she is on her knees. The girl (my relative) was 15 just that day!
I suppose, a big expensive doll was just a good Birthday suvenire at those times, though the girl wasn't a little girl.
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10/10/2015
I like her doll too by the way !
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Sveta Lute I am sure a 15 year old at that ime is different than now. the doll may have been one of treasures
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Linda Thank you so much. I love Seeing the Pictures. I See It As Part Of HISTORY. A Wonderful thing to see
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10/09/2015
They all have the same brow line...
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She looks to me like an adult kneeling. That face is VERY mature for a young girl with a doll!
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Nadsya Efseaff
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I think so to Mary Look at her face compaired to the teens standing there she looks much older.
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I thought the doll was another family member!
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Impressionnant ♡ ♥
Thanks for all of comments! I'm interested in your reaction very much.
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Am i the only one whos sees a skull shape in the top of the girl o. The right
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It's Vladimir waiving his hat...
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10/10/2015
Linda Thank you so much. I just Love the People in the picture And how things are So Different Than Today. Sometimes Just Taken a Look at the Background. Things are Looking Better THAN TODAY Not EVERYONE IS RUNNING Around AND RUSHING Around. Things Seem to be Wonderful. But Medical treatment and Technical Things are More Available Then the older Day's
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Marina Hanna
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Shaklhom y5of
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Aiwa :D
I would like to know something about Vladimir Markov (1883-?) and Serafima Markova (1885-?)! Maybe, the brother and sister of my great grandfather Boris (all of them were children of Pyotr Markov) lived at Lodz (Poland) after 1917.
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10/10/2015
belle photo
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10/10/2015
Vicky Byrne might interest you! Not sure if they are aristocratic though! :-)
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10/10/2015
Well the certainly have the look of it, thanks Ian 😊
The family of middle postal clerk, Ian. You are right, not aristocratic.
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They are no kulaks then. :-P I was thinking that from the expensive looking doll.
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10/10/2015
I hope that style of clothes never comes back.....
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Yes the girl with the doll looks mature but I suppose In those days they looked always serious
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10/11/2015
Linda And S Thank you
Saratov had many Germans living there, and nearly all the ethnic Germans in Russia were moved to Siberia, and north of the arctic circle, by force, near the beginning of WWI. My father's entire ancestry is the Germans from Russia. Those who didn't get out of Russia in time were victims of the Holodomer. Hundreds of thousands Germans, alone, died during that period, but more Ukrainians died in that period than Germans - not a lot more, but more. You need to read Alexandr Solzhenitsyn to know what was really going on with the Bolsheviks/Communists, including in the early rumblings of their movement - not his political philosophies, but his stories and poems. There you will learn the truth. A great many in my father's family died in the Holodomer. It's not true that they paid no attention to the strikes in Siberia - they just took their machine guns and mowed them all down, like sick and useless cattle.
Yes, Sylvia, there were many Germans at Saratov and county. Yes, many of them were moved to Siberia and Khazahstan at the beginning of WWII (not WWI: as far as I know, tsar Nikolay II moved nobody, Russian tsar was himself almost fullblooded German). That decision of the Soviet government was a result of Hitler's practice of using "wolksdoiche" (German diaspora) against native people of the countries he'd occupied. And, yes, that was a tragedy for every ethnic German, who was Soviet/Rassian patriot, who wasn't going to become Nazy collaborationist. Nevertheless I met some Russians of German diaspora origin and there are some famous persons among them: Tatiana Peltcer and Alicia Friendlich (acrtresses), German Gref (economist), etc.
But tell me, please, Sylvia, what time your ancestors really moved from Russia. I'm asking you, because "Holodomer" ("Golodomor", correctly) is Ukrainian term concerning 1930th, the time, when many people not only at Ukraine, but at South Russia and along the Volga river (Saratov county include) get a hungry death. That is why my Grandfather's family (Russians) ran from Kursk area to Central Asia that time. Do you know, Sylvia, how many Russians became victims of Stalin? – BILLIONS! I don't need neither advice to reed Solzhenitsyn (his novels were a part of my MSUniversity program 30 years ago), no Russian History lessons from foreigners: to live at any country (generation by generation) is the only way to have most correct information about it. Not myths and not stereotypes. As for strikes in Siberia, Sylvia, OK, I believe you: YOUR ancestors paid attentions to the strikes (maybe, that's why you are where you are now, and I'm at Moscow :)
We have many common understandings of what happened in Russia, but I think neither one of us knows the whole story. The Bolsheviks started the Holodomer while Tzar Nicholas was still ruling, and in the effort to appease the Bolsheviks, he changed laws that never should have been changed. Tzar Nicholas did the best he could with what he had to work with, and should be credited for his efforts, but these days he is only thought of as a villain, because people have forgotten his background, and lack of training to be the Tzar (maybe some shortsightedness on the part of his father), but the family had seen too much of the ruthlessness of the Bolsheviks, who later changed their name to Communists. Pogroms against the Germans started in the early to mid 1800's. These were not on the orders of the Tzar, the Bolsheviks were solely responsible for them, and you are absolutely correct about the billions, but among those billions were Germans whose ethnicity was no longer acknowledge, which included other ethnicities as well. There is too much to that whole history to be able to disscuss in any email or message.
Sveta Lute, thank you for posting this photo. It brings to mind many very sad thoughts, but I think we all need to be reminded of how evil man, and the world can get. You will always be in my thoughts because of this picture. Not all the people in this picture are happy, but it shows, even in the worst of times, we can smile, and even find things to celebrate. Russia, and it's people are very dear to my heart, just not the socialist government.
Those must of been the days of Stalin ! Think of the hunger and trying to feed your family back in those days.
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